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April 24th, 2006

Dear Madre...

Posted At: 2:22pm by Sandra Ostapowich

In the past week, I've been asked repeatedly by young ladies for "dating" advice.  This isn't the first time I've been asked for my insight, but it was enough at once that I decided to go with it and start a blogcolumn.

Part of the problem that teens today have is that the advice they get about dating is either, "WHAT?  Kiss dating goodbye!  You shouldn't even think about being in a relationship with a boy until you're 35 and ready to get married." Or, "Bat your eyes, wear low-cut, belly-baring tops and show a lot of leg...let him know what he's missing out on if he's so stupid as to pass YOU up."

Nice Lutheran girls want to attract nice Lutheran guys.  This is true regardless of your family's beliefs about dating in general.  Assuming your parents are cool with you doing a little dating at this point in your life, whether it's a formal dance for school, group dates, or even looking toward marriage, it's important to know how to find the right guy.  How do you know a guy is a nice guy? 

Well...first, is he Lutheran?  Not that Lutheran boys are necessarily better than non-Lutheran boys, but it's really important that you and your boyfriend/fiance/future husband share these basic beliefs and values in common.  It makes for a pretty tough relationship when you don't see eye-to-eye with each other on your religious beliefs.  I know a number of young women who place such a high priority in life on the faith they have been given, that a lot of times it's hard to find a guy to meet this basic criterion who isn't planning toward a vocation as a pastor or at least some sort of church work.  Does he go to church regularly?  Is he well-versed in his faith and able to discuss it with others without anyone receiving concussions from his giant KJV Bible?

What's his relationship with his family like?  Does he get along reasonably well with his parents and siblings?  Does he value their opinions and try to honor his father and mother?  Does he respect your parents, whether he's met them or not?  If he has, do your parents like him?

What are his goals in life?  Does he have any beyond beating Level 65 in the latest computer game and seeing how many letters of the alphabet he can get out in one belch?  Is he going to school?  Does he have a stable job?  Does he take pride in doing his work (whatever it is) well?

Does he treat you well?  Does he have good manners and treat you like a lady?  Does he trust you?  Is he honest with you?  Does he compliment you?  Does he treat his mother like a queen?  Is he gracious to people who serve him?  Does he build you up and make you feel good about yourself?  Does he think (and make you believe) you are most beautiful, wonderful, perfect woman in the world?

Sure, finding all that in one living, breathing, heterosexual and available young man where you live is pretty unlikely.  BUT it's important for a girl to have ideals. :)  No young man will be perfect, neither are you.  But these questions are just a place to start and see if a guy is worthy to seek your romantic attention.  Listen to your parents, listen to your friends.  They know you apart from the hormones and adrenaline and lovesick puppydog eyes.  They care for you and want what's best for you.

If you really want to see an ideal relationship, look at Christ and His Bride (Ephesians 5).  See how Jesus adores the Church and is willing to do anything for her best interests - and does?  He is the only perfect Bridegroom, and since you have been baptized into the Church, He is the perfect Bridegroom for you too, whether or not you find a nice guy to date or even marry one day.  Date, don't date.  Marry, don't marry.  Your Bridegroom has washed you and made you holy and perfect in God's sight.

Email Madre



Edited on: April 26th, 2006 1:30 am

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Comments

Re: Dear Madre...

Heh. If they're in their twenties or thirties, just send them to me. :-P

Re: Dear Madre...

Madre, perhaps you should add... "Is he desperate?" Blogger Smiley Chad, relax and wait for Madre to work. She did set me up, and I am marrying my dream in 23 days! Blogger Smiley

Re: Dear Madre...

How about another question for the list? How long should you date to get to know someone and address all the fine points you mentioned? People I've talked to have dated under a month before becoming engaged and later marrying, while others have dated for 8 years before becoming engaged and later married. Sometimes doesn't it take time to get to really know a person, with some things becoming more evident in time?

ps. listening to raleigh, nc native clay aitkin are we? You ARE getting ready for "For You" in NC! Blogger Smiley

Re: Dear Madre...

I suppose it would be easier to give a time limit. "You must wait X amount of months before you should think about marriage or even just a serious commitment." But I am not sure that is warrented. Some of the fine points mentioned you will know right away. Otherwise, perhaps you should wait until you recognize flaws in him and accept him anyway, unconditionally. Never enter into a relationship that you believe you will be able to change the person. If you can't accept his flaws, you will never be able to truly forgive him, because your forgiveness will be attatched with specific changes that have to be made for the relationship to proceed- something that Christ never requires of us. Some flaws take time to get used to and many require a concious decision to accept without expecting change. I don't know if this makes sense... that's what happens when you work all day at school with 5/6th graders Blogger Smiley.

Re: Dear Madre...

send any on the younger side of Chaz's request to me instead though Blogger Smiley seriously though, I hope good Lutheran girls are looking for a sinner too. I can't live up to many "good guy" standards, certainly not all the time.

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