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greetings in jesus name

2008-06-30T05:08:22-06:00

Greetings in the name of our LORD AND SAVIOUR JESUS CHRIST

I am B.ELISHA PAUL MINISTERING IN THE TRIBAL AREA
OUR ACTIVITIES:
* GOSPEL WORK
* CONDUCTING CRUSADES
* HELPING WIDOWS
* SUPPORTING BIBLE WOMEN
* CONDUCTING YOUTH RALLIES
* CHILDREN BIBLE SCHOOL
* church plantation
I am doing these ACTIVITIES INDEPENDENTLY WE HAVE TO plan to start
an ORPHANAGE.But we have no Funds here many ORPHANS are there in Tribal
area. There is no supporting people for them so please pray for that
If any people are interest to support, we will conduct better activities
for them
GOD BLESS US

IN GOD'S SERVICE
Rev.B.ELISHA PAUL
E-mail:elisha9700@gmail.com

My Address
Rev.B.Elisha paul
Koyyalagudem (md&Po)
West Godavari District
Andhra pradesh
South INDIA -534312
mobile : +91 98853 48457

Re: O Key of David

2008-06-12T08:49:38-06:00

The bible is written in two languages one human and one divine.The divine language=[113] is the numbers=[113] of prophecy=[113] of the key of David=[56 knowledge,113].God when speaking his language is very clear and infallible and unseals all the mysteries of the bible beyond the point of infinity.The first book every written on this subject can be found at www.snyderbooks.com.

Re: The Triune Mystery

2008-05-20T11:09:09-06:00

Always. No private property in the Church when it comes to the Word of God, as I always say.

Re: The Triune Mystery

2008-05-19T21:53:52-06:00

Pr. Cwirla,

A most excellent homily on the Holy Trinity! Thanks!

May I have your permission to "creatively appropriate" it for my midweek Divine Service this Wednesday, when I'll be preaching on the same Gospel reading?

RAsburry

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-06T20:07:03-06:00

I lean toward the view of Enrico Fermi, who, on the subject of extraterrestrial intelligent life, asked, "Where is everybody?"

Elsewhere his 1950 statement is quoted as "If they existed, they would be here."

The statement is based on the understanding that while some extraterrestrial civilizations in our galaxy may not have been able or indeed want to contact or visit us (and who could blame them?), all it takes is one ET group with the desire to actually do so; they've had sufficient time to make their presence known throughout the galaxy.

In any case, the Prime Directive is not Scripturally mandated.

Then there's the SF scenario where we intercept an extraterrestrial radio transmission, which, when translated, announces Earth's inhabitants as a new galactic menu item.

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-05T07:01:21-06:00

Great link! I'll be sure to feature it the next time someone insists that science is not trying to play the religion game.

Paul - Love the quote. Where do you get them?

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-04T23:14:13-06:00

About the only complete agreement you will ever reached among a group of scientists is on the subject of 'absolute'. They know that they are merely scratching at the window of knowledge wishing to be allowed in to see more and to understand more.

I don't really understand your point about kidding ourselves about the drive for the search. The people I come in contact with consider this a quest not a means to an end like paying the bills or self aggrandizement. Of course they are human after all and have the standard set of foibles well all share but they really do love knowledge and are never happier than when discovering something new.

If you want to hear (and see) the people that I'm talking about in action play some of these videos. Warning - some of it is strong stuff.

http://thesciencenetwork.org/BeyondBelief/

I thank you for the link and found it most interesting--especially the comments by Scott Atran in his piece entitled "A Response" to R. P. Bird. Some at the LaJolla conference clearly had an anti-religious agenda, if the reporting on the website is correct.
If science is to be pure science, I have always heard, it should do its research in a frame of mind not prejudiced by any value other than the extension of pure knowledge. If such a situation could really exist, I leave others to determine; I will allow for it as an ideal. This means, however, that science presents us with ever more perfected tools to be put by us to unclear, or worse still, evil ends. If this is not the case I would be curious to know how values could arise as some sort of epiphenomenon on careful, unbiased observation; it would violate the closed nature of the system. Barring that, religion, broadly understood, should be recognized as the custodian of value systems; entrust them to science, and science will itself fall from its own self-articulated ideal. Besides, any value-less endeavor would be less than humane; I think Antoine de Saint Exupery was quite correct: "We live not on things, but on the meaning of things." Based on the very short video clip, I think Francisco Ayala was making a similar point.

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-04T22:02:33-06:00

About the only complete agreement you will ever reached among a group of scientists is on the subject of 'absolute'. They know that they are merely scratching at the window of knowledge wishing to be allowed in to see more and to understand more.

I don't really understand your point about kidding ourselves about the drive for the search. The people I come in contact with consider this a quest not a means to an end like paying the bills or self aggrandizement. Of course they are human after all and have the standard set of foibles well all share but they really do love knowledge and are never happier than when discovering something new.

If you want to hear (and see) the people that I'm talking about in action play some of these videos. Warning - some of it is strong stuff.

http://thesciencenetwork.org/BeyondBelief/

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-04T16:30:45-06:00

Well Paul I think you misread what is going on. In fact the taxpayers don't fund any SETI searches. The government used to until the late Sen. Proxmire could not see the sense in it and used his influence to stop funding. I could never understand how such a small amount, the sum our forces in Iraq spend during a coffee break, but with such a huge payback possible could be denied but it was. Of course the search for life outside the Earth is really the main theme of the probes to Mars, Saturn and other places in our solar system. How, or where we came from is a great mystery that is nearly within our grasp to understand.

No one in the SETI community is 'absolutely convinced we are not alone' or of anything else for that matter. We are scientists and the word 'absolute' sends shudders up and down our spine. We leave absolutes to people like you.

Well, Jim, I think you misread many of your fellow scientists (By the way, "No one in the SETI community is absolutely convinced we are not alone" seems to be an absolute statement to me). I think we are kidding ourselves if we think the only values that drive this search for 'how and where we come from' are some sort of abstract love of knowledge. I'm glad to hear the government doesn't fund this, and am sorry for the misinformation. If this truly helps humanity, great, but I suspect solving environmental or medical problems here below would be a more humane use of funds.

Re: Intelligence and Static

2008-05-04T16:01:41-06:00

Well Paul I think you misread what is going on. In fact the taxpayers don't fund any SETI searches. The government used to until the late Sen. Proxmire could not see the sense in it and used his influence to stop funding. I could never understand how such a small amount, the sum our forces in Iraq spend during a coffee break, but with such a huge payback possible could be denied but it was. Of course the search for life outside the Earth is really the main theme of the probes to Mars, Saturn and other places in our solar system. How, or where we came from is a great mystery that is nearly within our grasp to understand.

No one in the SETI community is 'absolutely convinced we are not alone' or of anything else for that matter. We are scientists and the word 'absolute' sends shudders up and down our spine. We leave absolutes to people like you.